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  • Gentleman, back from SD and week-end on daughters boat. Went through NTC few changes with new condos more in 2 years and more business's occupying the buildings.Funny how they stayed with the colors of the old base.Well not much to report, you could call NTC your home, and be next to the Recruit, if you wanted to drop 2 million on a condo there. Not sure I would want to go back to "basic," that bad.

  • Thomas, I also remember my dad working on the silos in southeast New Mexico. We had a SAC base, Wlaker AFB, just south of Roswell NM and there were something like 5 silos built back in the Mid to Late 50's.

  • Terry, Thanks for the missile silo reminder, I remember my Dad as a structural steel contractor, was on one in Kansas and then another in Nebraska. Quite the secrecy on them as he  was not very informative about the work he was doing when we got to see him. He was usually gone weeks at a time as the jobs were on rush to completion.

  • Some of the memories being brought back with this discussion.  I come from the plains of western North Dakota and the fears  were reinforced with the actual seeing of some of the effects.  We had sonic booms all the time and we could see the F-106's dogfighting overhead.  The B-52s flew over regularly and this time was when the silo's were being built and loaded with Minuteman I, II, and III loaded and then guarded by Airmen with rifles. We went through the same duck and cover weekly, but we did say the pledge of allegience daily.  They taught us how to build ionizing radiation detectors with a straight sided glass and two pieces of aluminum foil.  Too late by the time it tells us anything. When I graduated from high school I worked with my dad and uncle who were electricians and we worked on radar stations putting in ground sites that were heavy duty.  9 foot ground rods pounded into the ground at six inch intervals X 36.  My uncle stood up inside the control room and his velt caught on the intrusion alarm and about 10 airmen with rifles ran in and my uncle had his hands against the wall.  I just stood there and smiled with all the excitement. This was just the routine during this time in our life. Seems bizzare now.  

  • As Dan said, about the "under the desk and the fall out shelters," it was controled chaos. Panic in those years was an "uncontrollable," problem with the public and taking the minds off the possibilities  of attack was  the idea.

  •    That's the trouble with elected officials having politics as a vocation rather than a well-rounded life that incudes military service.

  • Jim        AMEN !

  • Kind of ironic that these discussions would bring back something I heard back in boot at RTC. The Chief (our CC) said something that was so true and has been repeated many times by others through the years. When the US entered a was (as in the two World Wars) and the Generals and Admirals were told to go win the damn thing, they did. From Korea on, it has been the Generals and the Admirals saying "please let us win the damn thing!"! It reminded him of the Roman Empire. Once the politicians begin believing they know better, we usually loose! Loosing comes in a number of new configurations. We win militarily and then watch it all go for naught!

    For decades we have had leaders that learned nothing from history! So, we keep repeating it! There is something that is noticeable in every President that had a past that included serving in the military in a war!

  • History is the best teacher, in Korea we could not go above the 39th Parallel.  Mac Arthur wanted to chase them all out of Korea.  That got stopped. As for Nam, I was there and it was not a good situation as the enemy could be right next to you in the AM shining your shoes and aiming a rifle at you in the even. The body count was Johnson's deal. I read the memo on it and it is still classified.  I was also part of a group that bombed out an Ammo dump.  We were given strict orders not to blow it up.  That was after we did it.  So as I grow older and remember some of the damn things that happened, well it makes me wonder if we ever knew what reasoning was behind these last wars, Viet Nam included.  

  • We were raised to hate and fear the Communists. Remember the films they showed us in school? One was narrated by Jack Webb with a prolog by J Edgar Hoover. It was about an American town taken over by the commies. And then there was the domino theory and on and on. But you know some of it had some basis in fact, if you take into consideration what Stalin, Mao, and other communist dictators did to their own people. The Russians flat said they wanted to bury us. So I guess having lost a brother to Agent Orange, I still have mixed feelings about Viet Nam. I do think it would have turned out different if it hadn't be come a political football.

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RTC San Diego Company 788 1968

I would like to re-connect with any recruits from co. 788 from Nov. 12, 1968- Jan 30 1969 I still have my "ANCHOR" and all the names of my company mates. We were an outstanding group of sailors and I'd like to share comments about the rest of your Naval service                                                          THAT'S  COMPANY 788                                                          Nov 68- Jan 69                                                          RTC San…

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